Oregon StandOff: Cliven Bundy Will Not See Trial In Nevada Until Feb 2017, Is This A Death Sentence?

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Bundys, Pete Santilli and other defendants oppose long trial delay in Bunkerville standoff

The majority of the 19 defendants charged in the 2014 Bunkerville standoff — including rancher Cliven Bundy and four of his sons — indicated Friday they want to exercise their constitutional rights and go to trial as soon as possible.

The move appeared to surprise prosecutors, who told a federal judge that they had previously obtained the support of most of the defendants for an eight-month trial delay until February.

Many of the defendants and their lawyers announced in court that they had changed their minds, prompting the lead prosecutor in the case, Steven Myhre, to suggest some were “playing games” with the “extremely serious charges” they are facing.

All 19 defendants, who are in federal custody, appeared together for the first time. They were dressed in jail garb and chains and, with their lawyers, filled up the courtroom, including the jury box. A dozen deputy U.S. marshals were on hand for extra security.

Myhre said the trial delay was needed to give prosecutors more time to turn over to the defendants the massive amount of evidence authorities have collected since the April 12, 2014, armed confrontation with law enforcement near Bunkerville.

Most of the defendants are facing conspiracy, extortion, firearms and assault charges that could land them in prison for the rest of their lives if convicted.

Defense lawyers argued they needed to see the government’s evidence to make an informed decision about giving up their clients’ constitutional speedy-trial rights. The defendants have a right to go to trial within 70 days of being charged.

The defense arguments prompted U.S. Magistrate Judge Peggy Leen to order prosecutors to turn over a large portion of the evidence within two weeks.

Leen promised a written decision later on whether to declare the case complex and delay the trial into next year. She issued an order in the meantime putting off the scheduled May 2 trial without setting a new date.

She also ordered defense lawyers to let her know by next Friday their position on the government’s proposed protective order barring the lawyers from giving copies of key trial evidence, including government investigative reports, to the public and media. Prosecutors contend the order is needed to protect the safety of witnesses.

But many of the defense lawyers believe the proposed order is too broad.

Read more: http://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/bundys-other-defendants-oppose-long-trial-delay-bunkerville-standoff

Harry Reid Is Coming After Bundy Ranch Again

Harry Reid "The JOKER"

Harry Reid “The JOKER”

“Now that Bundys are in jail, I’m going to reach out to the White House.”
Nevada Senator Harry Reid spoke on the Senate floor Thursday about the need to “protect and preserve” Gold Butte in Nevada, referring to the region north-east of Las Vegas where Bundy led an infamous standoff with the government in 2014.  He claims the government is missing out on big money because the public does not have access to all the land.   Reid alleges that the Bundys are “abusing” the land, and showed a picture of a tree broken over to prove it, claiming the beautiful tree was chopped down, “brutalized by these criminals.”
“I’ve tried to protect Gold Butte for a long time. And the reason we haven’t been able to do anything to this point is that the Bundy boys and his pals. So that’s why I’m grateful for the Antiquities Act. Because of this legislation and because of the fact that the Bundys are in jail, I’m going to reach out to the White House. And there’s no guarantee we’ll get it done. We’ll see if President Obama will protect this area. He has the authority, as any president does, to stop this sort of destruction and stop it now.”In his remarks, Reid says, “The BLM is the final frontier for a primitive experience on our public lands. They represent the future of outdoor recreation.”      He refers to Cliven Bundy and his sons as “dangerous militants” causing “domestic terrorism” and says they are destroying the land that the public should have access to.

On Friday, Carol Bundy, Cliven’s wife, fired back in a Facebook video while critics of Reid alleged that he was plotting a “federal land grab” by the Bundy ranch.

Carol responded to Reid in her video, saying: “What you’re doing to my family and to the state of Nevada is absolutely horrible, and I for one am very angry today.  I am angry at Harry Reid for thinking that because my men are in jail, it’s OK to come now and take … the land that my family has farmed and ranched on for generations.”

Reid’s previous legislative efforts to create a 350,000-acre national conservation area at Gold Butte have failed, and conservative critics throughout the west have accused him of attempting to steal land from families who have long ranched in the area.

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Nevada’s chief federal judge Gloria Navarro has refused to let nationally known conservative lawyer Larry Klayman join Cliven Bundy’s defense team.

Nevada’s chief federal judge has refused to let nationally known conservative lawyer Larry Klayman join Cliven Bundy’s defense team.

In a three-page order, Gloria Navarro questioned Klayman’s candidness with her about the outcome of professional disciplinary proceedings against him in Washington, D.C.

She said his disclosure in court papers that no disciplinary action has been taken and the proceedings were likely to be resolved in his favor was “misleading and incomplete.”

Klayman can reapply to represent Bundy if he submits documents related to those proceedings, as well as disciplinary proceedings against him in Florida and clashes he had years ago with two federal judges who banned him from their courtrooms, Navarro said.

Late Friday, Klayman insisted there has been no final resolution to the case.

“There’s no imposed discipline in D.C.,” he said. “The proceedings are ongoing, and I said that in the application.”

Then, he added, “We’re going to obey the judge’s order. Whatever information she’d like is not a problem.”

Klayman, the founder of the Washington-based public interest groups Judicial Watch and Freedom Watch, is known for his tenacious pursuit of litigation, mostly in support of a wide range of conservative and libertarian issues.

His troubles with the Washington bar stemmed from three separate alleged conflicts of interest in litigation involving Judicial Watch after he left the organization as its legal counsel, according to court documents.

Klayman agreed to a public censure in the disciplinary case in June 2014, but Navarro said he did not give her a copy of the “petition for negotiated discipline” and an accompanying affidavit he signed.

“These documents were not provided by counsel, and they are admissions of three separate incidents of stipulated misconduct that were not clearly disclosed in Klayman’s petition,” Navarro wrote.

Last week, Klayman told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that the Bundy family had asked for his legal help. Bundy, 69, who is in federal custody, is facing criminal charges stemming from the April 12, 2014, armed standoffwith law enforcement near his ranch in Bunkerville.

Bundy is now represented by Las Vegas attorney Joel Hansen, who is active in the ultraconservative Independent American Party of Nevada.

Hansen filed court documents Thursday urging Navarro to let Klayman participate in Bundy’s defense.

The case is “proceeding on a fast pace” and Bundy “wants and needs” Klayman on his defense team to avoid harming his constitutional rights, Hansen wrote.

The Bundy family has been trying to raise money to pay Hansen and Klayman.

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was ordered Thursday to remain behind bars as he awaits trial on a slew of criminal charges tied to the April 2014 armed standoff with law enforcement near Bunkerville.

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy was ordered Thursday to remain behind bars as he awaits trial on a slew of criminal charges tied to the April 2014 armed standoff with law enforcement near Bunkerville.

Following a brief detention hearing, U.S. Magistrate Judge Bill Hoffman found that no conditions of release could be fashioned to ensure that Bundy would appear for his May 2 trial.

Hoffman said the serious nature of the charges against Bundy, the weight of the government’s evidence, and Bundy’s history of disobeying court orders all figured in his decision.

The judge said the government spent 22 months investigating the April, 12, 2014, confrontation and obtained one of the most detailed indictments he has seen. He added that it appeared there was “no serious question” that Bundy was the leader of the armed uprising against U.S. Bureau of Land Management officers.

Outside the courthouse afterward, Bundy’s wife, Carol Bundy, criticized the judge’s decision.

“This just proves the federal government is totally out of control,” she said. “Where does it say in the Constitution that the federal government has jurisdiction over a sovereign state of Nevada?”

Bundy’s lawyer, Joel Hansen, said afterward that he would ask a district judge to overturn Hoffman’s order. The case has been assigned to U.S. District Judge Gloria Navarro.

In court, Hansen argued that Bundy was not present during the Bunkerville confrontation and did not participate in the alleged conspiracy against the federal officers.

Hansen said 33 letters of support he obtained from Bundy’s friends, family and neighbors demonstrated that Bundy was a man of honesty and integrity and deserved to be set free.

Bundy and 18 others — including four of his sons, Ammon, Ryan, Melvyn and David — were charged in a federal indictment in Las Vegas earlier this month in connection with the Bunkerville showdown.

The Bundy patriarch faces 16 felony counts, including extortion, obstruction of justice, conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States, conspiracy to impede or injure a federal officer, assault on a federal officer, threatening a federal law enforcement officer, and using and carrying a firearm in a crime of violence.

Federal prosecutors have pushed for Bundy’s continued detention, arguing he is a “lawless” and “violent” man.

 

READ MORE: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/las-vegas/bundy-must-remain-custody-pending-trial

Nevada legislators stand atop soapbox as Bundy backers

The Nevada legislators were vocal members of a group of approximately 100 that assembled to support Bundy and his fellow defendants, who face criminal charges after their participation in a 2014 standoff with the Bureau of Land Management. An increased police presence was noted, but officers kept an extremely low profile.

It was the kind of unthreatening protest that, in retrospect, Bundy may wish had taken place back when ham-handed BLM contractors unsuccessfully tried to round up his herd.

The challenge for legislators Shelton and Moore is whether they fully appreciate their responsibilities as public officials when it comes to discussing such volatile issues as the Bunkerville standoff and the takeover of an Oregon federal wildlife refuge in January that resulted in the shooting death of reactionary Arizona rancher Robert LaVoy Finicum. The politicians also were on hand in the final days of the Oregon standoff.

Here are two excerpts from their Thursday pronouncements:

“A man was murdered as well, Mr. Finicum, at the hands of the FBI, the Oregon State Police, and others,” said Moore, who often mentions his military service. “Contractors out of Idaho Falls, Blackstone I believe. It’s time that the federal government wakes up, responds to the needs of the people instead of overrunning our citizens. I did not fight in combat so that my government can murder citizens, treat us like dogs, and run us like cattle into jail, holding us in cages, like animals.

“… Our political prisoners must be freed. They are being held unconstitutionally.”

Shelton said, “God is on our side. This country was founded on God’s principles. And we have innocent until proven guilty. And we have to remember that. We have prisoners, in jail right now who are innocent and they’re being held without bond.”

Shelton, who often mentions God and prayer in her public speeches, said she’s heard stories of cruelty toward the defendants, including them being “chained to a wall for hours” and being denied phone access.

“You have rapists and murderers being treated better than our political prisoners,” Shelton said. “And for what? For standing up for liberties and our freedoms. And we need to stand behind them.”

The voices of protest in the Bundy case figure to remain strong, at least as long as that megaphone holds out.

HOOP HYPE: Look no further than this week’s Mountain West basketball tournament for a sign of how Las Vegas can benefit from sporting events even without its own professional franchise.

Take The Mirage, for instance. This week it looks a lot like the rooting section for the University of New Mexico. The Lobos’ boosters are headquartered there, and there’s even a Lobo Lounge near the sports book. There are pep rallies, giveaways, and drink specials.

More than 160,000 fans are expected to converge on the Mountain West, WCC, and Pac-12 tournaments, including diehards and repeats with 23,000 or so coming from outside Southern Nevada, Las Vegas Convention and Visitors Authority Senior Director of Communications Jeremy Handel says. That translates into approximately $22 million in direct spending with a total economic impact of $36 million.

That’s just the college hoops. Once the NCAA Tournament cranks up, Las Vegas reminds the gambling world that it’s a sports betting mecca.

ON THE BOULEVARD: If someone hands you a leaflet on the Boulevard, it’s likely to be a card advertising outcall “girls to your room” or “exotic entertainment.” On Thursday, at least one protestor at the courthouse was issuing a copy of something called “The Constitution of the United States.” … Former Assemblyman Pat Hickey, the Republican conservatives love to hate, on Wednesday filed to retain his seat on the State Board of Education, a position to which he was appointed by Gov. Brian Sandoval in October.

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Dozens of demonstrators stood in front of the federal courthouse in downtown Las Vegas this morning to support rancher Cliven Bundy, who is facing charges related to a 2014 armed standoff with federal authorities.

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Carol Bundy, wife of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, speaks to reporters in front of the U.S. Courthouse in downtown Las Vegas Thursday, March 10, 2016. Bundy is facing charges relating to an armed ranching standoff against Bureau of Land Management agents in April 2014.

Dozens of demonstrators stood in front of the federal courthouse in downtown Las Vegas this morning to support rancher Cliven Bundy, who is facing charges related to a 2014 armed standoff with federal authorities.
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web1_BUNDYPROTEST4.jpgThe demonstration featured a concentration of members of the Guardians of the Oath movement, a radical, anti-government spin-off of the Oath Keeper movement, known for disobeying laws members don’t believe fall under the U.S. Constitution.

Also present at the rally were members of the Three Percenters group, a militant organization that pledges to uphold the U.S. Constitution using force, if necessary. The group’s name comes from an estimated 3 percent of the population that fought in the American Revolution.

“Obviously the second revolution is on the way,” said Bobby Florentz, 64, a self-proclaimed member of both movements.

web1_BUNDY-MARCH-11-16bt04.jpgFlorentz, waving a sign urging passer us to “save the patriots from the oathbreakers,” said the federal government was illegally charging Cliven Bundy for trespassing on land it doesn’t actually own.

“Bottom line is it’s unconstitutional for the federal government to own land,” he said. “So how can they charge Cliven Bundy for being on their land?”

Waving the Gadsden flag, named after American Revolution Gen. Christopher Gasden and often associated with libertarian and tea party groups, self-proclaimed patriot Steve Adams, 36, of North Las Vegas said the federal government has gone too far in prosecuting “innocent patriots.”

“A rattlesnake doesn’t bother anyone unless you step on it,” Adams said, referring to the design on the flag, which features a coiled snake. “I think the government is starting to step too much on American ranchers.”

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LeVoy Finnicum’s daughter Thara Tenney, 32, and her younger sister stood in front of the courthouse and with megaphones and sang an original song met by loud cheering. “Are you, are you, going to stand with me?,” they sang.

Finnicum was shot to death by authorities in January when a vehicle was stopped after leaving a wildlife refuge in Oregon taken over by armed protesters. Officials said authorities opened fire after he reached for a weapon.

Cliven Bundy’s wife, Carol Bundy, meanwhile, held a sign that said, “It’s Simple: The Land Belongs To The People.” She said her husband is being treated like he’s already been convicted and sentenced.

The government is treating him like a “mass murderer” when he’s only a father, a husband and a grandfather, she said. She expects today’s hearing will be “short and, I’m sure, sweet.”

“This isn’t a fight for the Bundys,” she said. “It’s a fight for we, the American people.”

11:08 a.m. — About an hour into the demonstration, Metro Lt. Reggie Rader said there have been no confrontations among law enforcement and the roughly 50 protesters on hand.

“It’s just a normal day; we have no issues with this. We’re just here to make sure everyone remains peaceful,” Rader said.

Rader, who was with four other Metro officers outside the federal courthouse, said protests happen frequently and a small police presence is standard for such events.

“Usually these folks are very peaceful and respectful,” he said.

Leonard Siebert showed up to support the Bundy family. “That was a great day for America,” he said of the day of the standoff, because patriots stood up to the Bureau of Land Management and the government.

Siebert, who said he is part of the Oath Keepers, a patriot group that vows to defend the Constitution, and the Three Percenters, a patriot group dedicated to protecting constitutional rights, said he anticipated a peaceful demonstration.

“We’re not here to riot. We’re not here to complain. We’re out here to voice as we can with the First Amendment.”

Brian Enright of Southern California arrived at the courthouse with his wife, daughter and their dog.

He carried an American flag and said he was here to support Bundy and the patriot movement. He said the federal government is “out of control” when it comes to “state matters.”

He said he is not a member of any movement.

10:45 a.m.

Demonstrators carried anti-Bureau of Land Management signs and U.S. and Gadsden flags, but no guns were spotted. Law enforcement officials had anticipated demonstrators would openly carry guns.

The Gadsden flag, designed during the American revolution, depicts a rattlesnake and the words “Don’t tread of me.” It has been used more recently as a symbol of American patriotism and disagreement with the government.

Interactions between police ad protestors, meanwhile, appeared to be polite and friendly.

Randy Peck, 54, of Las Vegas held a sign reading, “BLM: Give Up Your Land, Give Up Your FREEDOM.”

He said he belongs to the patriot movement and is a Bundy supporter. He described Bundy as a “political prisoner.”

Peck said he came out to protest the overreach of the U.S. government and that he hopes Bundy is released.

Armed demonstrators expected for Cliven Bundy hearing

Demonstrators, some of them openly carrying guns, are expected outside the federal courthouse in Las Vegas today as Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy faces a hearing on charges related to a 2014 armed standoff with federal agents.

Bundy’s wife and other family members and friends said they want to show they’re keeping up their fight against the federal government.

“We’re a strong family and we stand together,” family matriarch Carol Bundy said. “I want the world to see that.”

Nevada allows the open-carrying of guns, and Metro Police and the U.S. Marshals Service said they expect some protesters will be armed but will remain peaceful.

“Our mission is to protect people’s right to peacefully assemble and protest,” Metro Officer Larry Hadfield said. “One’s position does not matter. We are happy to accommodate them.”

On April 12, 2014, an estimated 400 people engaged in an armed standoff with the Bureau of Land Management as authorities attempted to round up and impound Bundy’s cattle over nonpayment of grazing fees on public land. Authorities eventually backed down.

The dispute dates to 1993, and BLM officials estimated two years ago that Bundy owed more than $1 million in unpaid grazing fees.

Bundy heads a list of 19 people — including four Bundy sons — accused of leading the standoff near his ranch in Bunkerville.

Bundy was arrested Feb. 10 in Oregon as he arrived at Portland International Airport to visit two sons jailed on charges that they led a 41-day armed occupation of a federal wildlife refuge.

He faces 16 charges, including conspiracy, assault, obstruction and threatening a federal officer. Convictions could result in penalties up to life in prison.

While Bundy’s hearing isn’t set to begin until 2 p.m., the demonstration, organized via the Bundy ranch Facebook and Twitter accounts, is set for 10 a.m. outside the downtown Las Vegas courthouse at 333 Las Vegas Blvd.

The social media accounts said demonstrators planned on “filling the sidewalks” from 10 a.m. to 2 p.m. before “filling the courtroom.” The posts, first reported Monday, were deleted from the accounts as of Wednesday night.

Bundy backers planning demonstration at U.S. courthouse in Las Vegas

Bundy005Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy’s family and friends plan a demonstration at the federal courthouse in Las Vegas to coincide with his scheduled Thursday court date.

Wife Carol Bundy said Tuesday the picketing should show that backers are keeping up their fight against the federal government.

Carol Bundy tells The Associated Press her husband may hire a lawyer before his court appearance, but she’s not saying yet who that’ll be.

Cliven Bundy is accused of 16 charges stemming from an armed standoff with federal agents in April 2014 that stopped a roundup of cows from public land near his ranch in Bunkerville.

He was arrested Feb. 10 in Oregon as he arrived at Portland International Airport to visit two of his sons jailed during the occupation of a federal wildlife refuge.

 

Courts are new front line in Bundy’s battle with the government

The new indictment of defiant rancher Cliven Bundy and 18 followers, including four of his sons, has established a new front line in the courts in their ongoing battle with the government.

And defense lawyers think the high-profile case — which stems from the April 2014 armed standoff with law enforcement near the Bundy ranch in Bunkerville — will only be resolved by a trial, where key constitutional issues will play out.

“These people physically stood up to the government, and now they’re likely to stand up to the government again in court,” veteran defense lawyer Chris Rasmussen said Friday.

That means most, if not all, of the 19 defendants won’t be striking plea agreements to end their cases, Rasmussen said.

“They’ve been trying to make a statement about their actions, and I think they want to to put this in front of a jury and hope the jury agrees with them,” defense lawyer Craig Drummond added.

The Bundys consider themselves “political prisoners” and are mounting a nationwide campaign through their websites and social media to raise money for their defense and spread their anti-government message.

Bundy, his sons Ammon, Ryan, David and Melvyn and the other defendants were charged with a string of felonies in connection with the April 12, 2014, standoff. All have been arrested by FBI agents.

More defendants could be charged in an investigation that Nevada U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden said is not over. Hundreds of anti-government activists from across the country, many of them armed, participated in the nationally watched showdown.

Courtroom battles are on the horizon as the 19 defendants, including the elder Bundy, the man federal prosecutors allege led “massive armed assault” against the federal officers, prepare for their return to Las Vegas to face the criminal charges.

The confrontation aimed to force federal officials to abandon about 400 cattle they had rounded up under court orders, according to the indictment. The Bundy family had been illegally grazing cattle on federal public lands for more than 20 years.

During the height of the standoff, Bureau of Land Management and National Park Service rangers were outnumbered 4-to-1 by the Bundys and 270 supporters, and rangers were threatened by snipers perched high above them on bridges, the indictment alleges.

Bundy family members are alleged to have used “deceit and deception” to lure militia and other followers across the country to a call to arms against the federal officers.

Longtime criminal attorney Thomas Pitaro said he expects the defendants to raise what they believe are First Amendment and Second Amendment issues in their defense at trial.

“No matter wherever you stand, there are significant political connotations to this case that will push the boundaries of constitutional protections (free speech and the right to bear arms) that the courts will have to address,” Pitaro said.

The government already has revealed in court documents that much of its evidence against the defendants has come from their own words in cellphone conversations, Internet videos and social media.

Prosecutors have argued that there is no constitutional right that allows someone to use a weapon to prevent law enforcement officers from performing their duties.

And prosecutors have left little doubt they are taking the case seriously.

In announcing the new Las Vegas indictment Thursday, U.S. Attorney General Loretta Lynch said the Justice Department “will not tolerate the use of threats or force” against federal agents who are simply doing their jobs.

Four prosecutors from the Nevada U.S. attorney’s office, led by First Assistant U.S. Attorney Steven Myhre and Assistant U.S. Attorney Nicholas Dickinson, are handling the case.

“The government has to take this seriously. Otherwise we would have anarchy,” said former federal prosecutor Kathleen Bliss, who worked closely with Dickinson on organized crime cases. “It’s a sign of good leadership.”

The price tag for the complicated case is likely to be steep for the taxpayers. Public defenders and court-appointed lawyers will be provided to many of the defendants, and the government will be spending big bucks maintaining extra security and its mass of evidence.

“I think the government will have the highest level of security it can in this case,” Rasmussen said. “I think they’re preparing for the worst, like there could be trouble.”

At the same time, Rasmussen said, “these people have a genuine, good faith belief that the land around their ranch belongs to the citizens and not the federal government.”

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Cliven Bundy indictment over 2014 Nevada standoff expanded to 19 defendants

Cal BundyA dozen people were arrested and face federal charges stemming from a 2014 armed standoff with authorities in Nevada over cattle grazing rights. The confrontation was led by rancher Cliven Bundy and his sons, who are already in federal custody.
On Thursday, 12 people from five states were arrested after a federal grand jury in Las Vegas expanded an indictment previously filed against Cliven Bundy. The indictment included Ammon Bundy, Ryan Bundy and four other men already in federal custody as of late January in connection with a nearly six-week occupation of a federal wildlife preserve in Oregon. Those four include Ryan Payne of Montana, Peter Santilli Jr. of Ohio, and Brian Cavalier and Blaine Cooper, both of Arizona, according to AP.The indictment named Cliven Bundy as the leader and beneficiary of the armed standoff with federal agents in April 2014 near his southern Nevada ranch. The indictment called Bundy’s sons, Ammon and Ryan, leaders and organizers of around 200 gunmen and other supporters. Cliven Bundy was arrested in Portland, Oregon, on February 10 while traveling to visit his sons.

The 19 defendants in the Nevada case are accused of leading an armed confrontation with US Bureau of Land Management agents, who were forced to halt an attempt to move cattle belonging to the elder Bundy out of federal lands. Bundy has long refused to pay federal fees in exchange for permission to let his cattle graze on public lands.

Charges in the nine-count indictment include conspiracy to commit an offense against the United States; threatening a federal law enforcement officer; obstruction of justice; attempting to impede or injure a federal law enforcement officer; and several firearms charges.

The indictment says the defendants recruited, trained and provided support for armed gunmen and others amid a dispute of more than $1 million in federal grazing fees that Bundy has not paid. Bundy’s outstanding federal grazing fees are reportedly more than all other ranchers combined.

Pete Santilli, 3 others face 16 felonies in Nevada Bundy standoff- These charges are seperate from the charges in Oregon

These include crimes against the government, and a very clear statement is made by law enforcement that they are sending a message. These charges are seperate from the charges in Oregon. Source http://www.oregonlive.com/oregon-stan…

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Cliven Bundy called ‘lawless and violent,’ ordered detained

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy will remain behind bars while he faces a half-dozen felony charges in the April 2014 armed standoff with law enforcement in Bunkerville.

A federal magistrate in Portland, Ore. Tuesday ordered the defiant Bundy patriarch held without bail after prosecutors called him “lawless and violent.” U.S. marshals will return him to Las Vegas to answer the charges.

Bundy, 69, poses a danger to the community and might skip future court dates, according to the prosecutors’ 34-page memorandum.

Prosecutors said Bundy refuses to obey court orders, has used force and violence in the past against authorities, “nearly causing catastrophic loss of life or injury to others,” and has pledged to use force again.

BLM and National Park Service rangers were outnumbered 4-to-1 by Bundy and some 270 supporters at the height of the standoff, and rangers were threatened by snipers during the confrontation, which attracted international attention.

Bundy and his co-conspirators used “deceit and deception” on the Internet to recruit hundreds of supporters across the country to their cause, prosecutors allege. Militia gunman who came to the Bundy family’s aid from more than 10 states during the showdown near Bundy’s ranch near Bunkerville remain at large waiting for another call-to-arms, they wrote.

Prosecutors revealed that the federal investigation began the day after the April 12, 2014, Bunkerville confrontation and continues today. FBI agents and others have worked to identify those who assaulted government officials and to determine their connection to Bundy, prosecutors wrote. More defendants are expected to be charged.

The government has interviewed hundreds of witnesses, executed more than 40 search warrants, analyzed hundreds of thousands of pages of documents (mostly from social media), reviewed thousands of pages of phone records and examined hundreds of hours of audio and video recordings, prosecutors said.

“The evidence overwhelmingly establishes that Bundy was the leader, organizer and main beneficiary of the conspiracy to impede and assault federal officers,” prosecutors wrote.

Bundy was charged in the six-count criminal complaint in Las Vegas last Thursday. He was arrested by FBI agents at Portland International Airport while traveling to Eastern Oregon, where he planned to support the four remaining holdouts occupying a government wildlife refuge.

The FBI complaint charged Bundy with leading a “massive armed assault” that forced federal officials to abandon roughly 400 cattle they had gathered near his ranch. He had “trespassed his cattle” on public land for more than 20 years, refusing to pay for required permits and thwarting federal court orders, the complaint alleged.

Felony charges in the complaint include conspiracy, extortion, assault on a federal law enforcement officer, obstruction of justice and carrying a firearm in a crime of violence.

The complaint details the roles of four unnamed co-conspirators in the 2014 standoff, all of whom were arrested in the Oregon takeover. Bundy’s sons Ammon, the alleged leader in Oregon, and Ryan were among those taken into custody there.

Building Case In 2014 Cliven Bundy Nevada Standoff Is Complex and U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden in Las Vegas isn’t saying why it took so long to bring charges

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Rancher Cliven Bundy poses at his home in Bunkerville, Nevada

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LAS VEGAS (AP) — Cliven Bundy is due to face a federal judge in Oregon this week over charges stemming from a 2014 armed standoff with federal officials rounding up cattle near his Nevada ranch.

U.S. Attorney Daniel Bogden in Las Vegas isn’t saying why it took so long to bring charges.

But a law professor and a former U.S. attorney say it appears prosecutors are working carefully to build what could be a complicated case.

Bundy was arrested last Wednesday as he stepped off a plane at Portland International Airport on his way to visit his jailed sons, Ammon and Ryan Bundy.

The Bundy brothers are accused of organizing the armed occupation of Malheur National Wildlife Refuge in Oregon that lasted for nearly six weeks.

 

EXCLUSIVE: FBI sting to arrest 86 Americans in massive BLM cover-up

Rancher Cliven Bundy poses at his home in Bunkerville, NevadaNevada rancher Cliven Bundy, 74, was arrested late yesterday evening while exiting a plane at Portland International Airport on his way to Burns, Ore., a town located 30 miles south of the federally claimed Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, the site of a months-long standoff between freedom-loving Americans and the U.S. government.

Celebrated for standing up to government land-grabs in 2014, Bundy has been charged with conspiracy to interfere with a federal officer, an allegation that reportedly stems back to his standoff with the Bureau of Land Management, which tried stripping him and his family of land-use rights they spent a century earning. The charges are identical to those filed against seven protesters (including his son Ammon Bundy) who occupied the wildlife refuge in protest of government overreach.

NewsTarget has received exclusive information that Bundy’s arrest, which was made using facial recognition technology and TSA goons, may not be isolated, but is in fact the first of many to come in an effort to silence those who have obtained incriminating information about the BLM and its unlawful land grabs.

Government uses facial recognition to apprehend libertarian activists

While taking up occupancy of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, protesters reportedly gained access to sensitive information stored on the computers there, revealing sinister plans by the BLM to confiscate privately owned land with uranium reserves before auctioning it off to foreign interests that have donated to the Clinton Foundation, according a source who requested anonymity.

In an effort to suppress this information, the FBI is believed to be conducting a nationwide warrant roundup of protesters and independent journalists involved in the recent protests and standoffs against the federal government. A total of 86 people, including Bundy, are believed to be on the FBI’s roundup list and could subsequently be arrested for their “crimes.”

The war on indie journalists and citizen protesters refusing to fall in line with the government’s increasing tyrannical actions is escalating. Radio show host Pete Santilli, who merely covered the wildlife occupation as a citizen journalist, never spending a single night at the refuge, was also arrested on felony conspiracy charges.

When asked about his role at the wildlife refuge occupation, Santilli replied: “My role is the same here that it was at the Bundy ranch. To talk about the constitutional implications of what is going on here. The Constitution cannot be negotiated.”

Constitutional law and human rights attorney John Whitehead wrote that “the government doesn’t actually believe that 50-year-old Santilli is an accomplice to any criminal activity. Read between the lines and you’ll find that what the government is really accusing Santilli of is employing dangerous speech.

“As court documents indicate, the government is prosecuting Santilli solely as a reporter of information. In other words, they’re making an example of him, which is consistent with the government’s ongoing efforts to intimidate members of the media who portray the government in a less than favorable light.”

The Obama Administration‘s notorious crackdown on journalists is part of a large-scale government effort to use political correctness and accusations of hate speech to silence First Amendment rights – in turn, attempting to destroy citizen journalism, the only facet of journalism that remains uncontrolled by the establishment.

Sources include:

ZeroHedge.com

Rutherford.org

Alex Jones Breaks Down Cliven Bundy Arrest

BundyIlloWEBCliven Bundy, the Nevada rancher who touched off one armed showdown with federal authorities and applauded another started in Oregon by his sons, was arrested late Wednesday at Portland International Airport and faces federal charges related to the 2014 standoff at his ranch.http://www.infowars.com/nevada-ranche…
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Are we close to an end to this standoff or is this only the beginning of a a civil war?

The occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge enters its 41st day, the situation is heating up and the standoff between the FBI and Militia members. Are we close to an end to this standoff or is this only the beginning of a a civil war?

There’s been a national call sent out by the Militias United Facebook:

 

Cliven Bundy Serves Notice Upon Barack Obama Over Oregon Refuge Means The Fight Is Far From Over – Should Lavoy Finicum Be Added To The ‘Clinton Body Count’?

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By Stefan Stanford – All News Pipeline – Live Free Or Die

Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy has served noticed upon Barack Obama, Oregon governor Kate Brown and Harney County Sheriff David Ward as heard in his own words in the 1st video below with the complaint seen in the screenshots below. The notice requests all federal and state police be removed from Harney County and gives notice that the People of Harney County and the citizens of the United States would ‘retain possession of the Harney County Resource Center (Malhaur National Wildlife Refuge Center).

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After the recent arrests of Bundy’s sons, Ammon Bundy told their supporters to ‘back down’ from the occupation and ‘go home’ but we learn here that Cliven Bundy is now calling for just the opposite.

While some groups in Oregon are calling for peace, Las Vegas Now tells us that this notice from Bundy to Barack Obama and the governor and sheriff in Oregon could mean this fight is far from over.

Sadly, it appears this is all a part of an ongoing fight that has been ongoing for many years, especially out West, where a huge portion of the land is owned by the federal government as seen in the map below. Is all of this going on right now in Oregon part of Agenda 21 as asked in this story from Infowars? Or, is it much more than ‘just’ Agenda 21 as asked below?

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In writing about the refuge in Oregon, we must mention the possible ties of Hillary Clinton to all of this mess that led to the death of Lavoy Finicum. Was Finicum another death that should be attributed to the hands of the Clintons? According to Cheryl Chumley at WND and curious investigative reporter Jon Rappoport, the Oregon standoff may really have been all about uranium and a Hillary Clinton approved deal to transfer 20% of all US uranium production to Russia.

If you haven’t read this story yet, it’s a stunner and if true, could officially add the name of Lavoy Finicum to the Clinton body count that continues to expand into 2016 – imagine how much more this list might grow if Hillary becomes president in January 2017! Did the militia in Oregon step into a hornet’s nest that they weren’t aware of? The 2nd video below from Infowars looks at the implications of a BLM land grab for Hillary that led to Finicum’s death. From Rappoport.:

“In September 2011, a representative from Oregon Energy, L.L.C. (formally Uranium One), met with local citizens, and county and state officials, todiscuss the possibility of opening a uranium oxide (‘yellowcake’) mine in southern Malheur County in southeastern Oregon.”

What does this have to do with Hillary and Bill Clinton? I’ll reprint my previous article so you can read the details, but the short version is: there’s a case to be made that they, through Uranium One and the Clinton Foundation, facilitated the sale of Uranium One to Putin and the Russians. And if so, and if this area of Oregon is projected to be part of that uranium mining deal, then we are looking at a stunning “coincidence”: the US federal government is coming down hard on a group of protestors who are occupying, for their own reasons, a very valuable piece of territory that goes far beyond the issue of private cattle grazing on government land.

It comes under the heading of those old familiar lines: you have no idea what you’re involved in; you have no idea who you’re messing with; this is way over your head; you just stepped into the middle of something that’s bigger than you can imagine.

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“LaVoy Finicum was assassinated by wicked and evil men representing our US government. These men in local, state, and US government feared the truths that LaVoy Finicum was standing for and teaching to his fellowmen,” – Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy

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By Keith Rogers
Las Vegas Review-Journal

Defiant Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy a issued lengthy statement Saturday castigating federal agents for the shooting death of one of the anti-government protesters this week who had occupied a national wildlife refuge in Oregon with his sons.

“LaVoy Finicum was assassinated by wicked and evil men representing our US government.  These men in local, state, and US government feared the truths that LaVoy Finicum was standing for and teaching to his fellowmen,” the Bundy patriarch wrote in statement released to the media.

FBI Special Agent in Charge Greg Bretzing has said Finicum was shot Tuesday night as he reached for a pocket where a loaded gun was found after the car he was driving swerved into a snowbank trying to evade a road block. 

“All is well in your government.  There cannot be a cry go out for freedom, or for property rights, state sovereignty, local government close to the people – government by the people – for the people.  No, we cannot allow policing power be in the hands of We the People’s elected county Sheriff,” Bundy’s statement reads.

Earlier in the week, Bundy told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that Finicum’s death and the arrests of his sons, Ammon and Ryan Bundy, with other self-styled militia and anti-government activists would be “a wake-up call to America.”

Video shows Oregon state troopers and federal agents setting up roadblocks and pulling over two vehicles along a mostly empty highway.

Read more: http://www.reviewjournal.com/news/nation-and-world/nevada-rancher-cliven-bundy-denounces-federal-agents-shooting-protester

Personalities trumped policy yet again in the Assembly last week when Assemblywoman Michele Fiore lost her temper with a GOP colleague during a hearing on her “Cliven Bundy” bill. and asked Speaker John Hambrick, R-Las Vegas, to put a halt to Edwards’ statements, adding to Edwards: “Sit your ass down.”

Personalities trumped policy yet again in the Assembly last week when Assemblywoman Michele Fiore lost her temper with a GOP colleague during a hearing on her “Cliven Bundy” bill.

Assemblyman Chris Edwards, who was in the midst of asking several questions about an amendment to Assembly Bill 408 during an early evening floor session Tuesday, was interrupted by Fiore.

When Edwards made yet another vague reference to conservative anti-tax political activist Chuck Muth during his questioning on several bills up for a vote during a lengthy floor session, Fiore had had enough.

She asked Speaker John Hambrick, R-Las Vegas, to put a halt to Edwards’ statements, adding to Edwards: “Sit your ass down.”

The comment caused a momentary shock, an Assembly recess and then, an apology from Fiore to Edwards.

Edwards was not impressed with the apology.

AB408 was a priority for Fiore, who is a Bundy supporter and who brought the Bunkerville rancher to Carson City for a hearing on her bill. As originally written, the measure would have asserted state control over most public lands in Nevada.

The genesis of the bill was the BLM’s unsuccessful efforts to round up cattle belonging to Bundy in 2014 that resulted in an armed confrontation between federal agents and Bundy supporters.

When legislative legal staff said the measure was unconstitutional, the bill was amended to set forth requirements for local law enforcement to work with federal agencies.

On Tuesday, Fiore tried and failed twice to add amendments to the bill. In a final vote, the measure failed on a 34-8 vote.

Fiore and Edwards have a history of animosity.

Edwards said before the 2015 session began that Las Vegas police were investigating allegations of attempted extortion in exchange for his vote for Assembly speaker. The investigation is ongoing.

Both Fiore and Assemblywoman Victoria Seaman, R-Las Vegas, early in the session questioned whether Edwards was wearing a “wire” in caucus meetings, a claim that the lawmaker denied.

The shocking Republican takeover of the Assembly in the Nov. 4 general election resulted in chaos for the 25-member caucus, with an internal fight for leadership between more moderate members of the group and tea party conservatives.

The moderates won out, and Fiore was deposed as both majority leader and chairwoman of the Assembly Taxation Committee.

The most divisive issue in the caucus is Sandoval’s call for $1.1 billion in new and extended taxes to boost funding for public education and balance his $7.3 billion general fund budget.

The tax issue is squarely in the Assembly now. The Senate on Tuesdayapproved Sandoval’s business license fee bill, Senate Bill 252.

Fiore said she does not support the bill, nor does she like an alternative presented by some members of the Assembly GOP caucus.

There have been other incidents in the caucus this session, including a confrontation between conservative Assemblyman John Moore, R-Las Vegas, and Majority Leader Paul Anderson, R-Las Vegas, which led to the filing of a report with Legislative Police by Moore. The two later made up.

More recently, Seaman complained about comments made by Judiciary Chairman Ira Hansen, R-Sparks, after a dispute over her homeowner’s bill of rights measure that did not get a vote in the committee.

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**ALERT** LTC Potter: Imminent Roundup Of Bundy Ranch Supporters In 21 States By Feds (VIDEO)

According to Lieutenant Colonel Roy Potter, The BLM and the Southern Poverty Law Center have been having joint meetings with The Las Vegas Metro PD about what to do concerning the supporters that were involved in the April 12 standoff at The Bundy Ranch in Bunkerville Nevada. Colonel Potter received this inside intel from an undercover Patriot that was in these meetings.

According to an undercover source that was at the meeting they were discussing how social media and radio talk show hosts played a huge role in the standoff, even mentioning a few by name.

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Cliven Bundy, supporters rally before state lawmakers

BundyIlloWEBCARSON CITY, Nev. — Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, who garnered national attention a year ago when he and armed supporters engaged in a showdown with federal authorities, came to Carson City Tuesday with scores of allies to rally behind a bill seeking to reclaim land from the federal government.
A bus from Phoenix and another from Las Vegas brought more than 100 people, according to Bundy’s son, Ammon Bundy, and others came on their own to fill several legislative hearing rooms. Many wore shirts and carried signs that read “the land belongs to the people.”

The proposal, Assembly Bill 408, is sponsored by Republican Assemblywoman Michele Fiore and would require the federal government to obtain permission to use land within the state’s borders. The proposal also strips the federal government of state water rights and would allow county commissions to parcel out state land for commercial use.

“We’re here to take our state back and act like we’re sovereign citizens,” Bundy said at a rally outside the Capitol before the hearing. “We’re going to have agency. We’re going to own our rights here on this land.”

The bill is part of a larger movement challenging federal government property rights, especially in Western states such as Nevada, where federal and military agencies control about 85 percent of the land. The Bureau of Land Management is charged with balancing environmental and recreational goals with economic development on the lands, which include national parks. The department’s priorities in certain situations can anger residents.

Eleven Western states have introduced bills this year on the matter, and AB408 has the widest scope, according to Jessica Goad of the Denver-based conservation group Center for Western Priorities. The bill asserts the federal government has no right to the lands, while other bills merely call for a study on federal land ownership or demand the federal government turn over the lands.

Such measures are routinely considered unconstitutional, even when they pass. Supporters, however, see them as an important part of the fight to assert states’ rights.

Cliven Bundy has said he doesn’t recognize federal authority on the land near Bunkerville that his family settled and has used since the late 1870s.

BLM officials have accused him of failing to pay grazing fees for 20 years, racking up more than $1.1 million in fees and penalties, and failing to abide by court orders to remove his cattle from vast open range that is habitat for the endangered desert tortoise.

His standoff with the federal government and Bureau of Land Management last year attracted out-of-state militia members and was called off by federal agents on April 12, amid fears of a shootout, although BLM officials say they haven’t given up on their case.

Bundy has been lauded by some as a hero in the fight against federal overreach.

But critics raise serious concerns about the bill. The state’s legislative counsel bureau said the proposal was “manifestly hostile” to the federal government and would be struck down if challenged in court for attempting to put state law ahead of federal law.

Fiore, however, said she disagrees with that finding “100 percent.”

Nevada’s state conservation department estimated that transferring around 60 million acres of federally controlled land would cost the department around $95 million and that the parceling process for mining, logging and other industries could become “complicated and controversial.”

“If we want to take control of all that,” said Democratic Sen. Kelvin Atkinson, who opposes the plan, “I think we’ll go broke as a state.”

Crowd control measures were in place for the hearing. Capitol and local police made aware of the rally and other meetings were pushed back to accommodate a big hearing.

Opponents, including Battle Born Progress director Jocelyn Torres, say the measure would take land access out of the hands of everyday Nevadans.

“Federal lands belong to everyone, and they’re limiting it to folks who can buy these lands and exploit them,” she said. “If it’s unconstitutional, it will get stopped at some point.”

Powder Keg: Cliven Bundy Supporters Openly Warn Feds To Stand Down In 3 Million Acre Land Grab

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by Pete Santilli, The Pete Santilli Show & The Guerilla Media Network

The Pete Santilli Show:   Wednesday October 28, 2014 Episode #827

In this episode of  The Pete Santilli Show:  Pete’s back from his little business trip.  We were off air for a couple days, planning for the coming days & weeks of unraveling within the USA.

Today Pete’s main theme was about a story he discovered initially that was published on BeforeItsNews.com titled  FEDS Retaliate Against The Bundy Ranch And Southern Nevada.

In today’s episode, Pete relives the original Bundy Ranch standoff, and he also conveys his belief that a 2nd Bundy Ranch Standoff will ensue if the federal government dares to take the 3 million acres they have recently proposed and published on their website.  Santilli’s comments are important, especially as they relate to the U.S. Constitution.  Article one, section 7 paragraph 17 of the U.S. Constitution specifically prohibits what the U.S. Government can and cannot own as far as land.  Taking 3 million acres from the American people is outright unconstitutional, and Santilli tells Senator Harry Reid, the BLM, the DOJ and every other communist who has infiltrated the U.S. Government that we will not let them take the land from the people of the state of Nevada.  Santilli openly calls for a 2nd Bundy Ranch Standoff in order to defend our constitutional rights as a people.

During the show, Pete Santilli is joined by “Gunny Booda”, the head of security for the Bundy Family and Ranch.  Booda and Santilli are both former United States Marines who have sworn an oath to defend and support the U.S. Constitution, and they do not pull any punches when the discuss how a 2nd Bundy Ranch Standoff will produce an even bigger response than the first — the Constitution still applies, and contrary to BLM Special Agent Daniel P. Love’s recorded conversations with Santilli, the U.S. Constitution applies in the dirt.

Please listen to at least the last conversation Santilli had with Love before the Standoff:   3 – Final Meeting with BLM_04112014  3 – Final Meeting with BLM_04112014

Santilli & Booda also reach out to federal agents, law enforcement and federal officials to be “Constitutional”, and to stand down when confronted by peaceful protestors.  They both agree that each of the Bundy Ranch supporters are peaceful, constitutional and very willing to die defending our God-given rights.  They both encourage all members to the Citizen’s Militia to respond to the call when necessary in order to defend our country at Bundy Ranch.

The warning to the federal government is strern and non-negotiable.

1) The federal government must comply strictly with Article 1,  Section 8, paragraph 17  ”To exercise exclusive Legislation in all Cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten Miles square) as may, by Cession of Particular States, and the Acceptance of Congress, become the Seat of the Government of the United States, and to exercise like Authority over all Places purchased by the Consent of the Legislature of the State in which the Same shall be, for the Erection of Forts, Magazines, Arsenals, dock-Yards, and other needful Buildings;–  The federal government does not own land for any reason outside or or in violation of the U.S. Constitution.

2) If the federal government attempts to seize 3 million acres in Southern Nevada, and local law enforcement does not side with the people of Nevada as in the case leading up to the standoff in April 2014, We The People will have no alternative than to stop them by any means necessary to peacefully defend and support the U.S. Constitution.  If the federal government attempts to harm the American people in any manner with “weapons of war” as they did on April 12th 2014, We The People will have to defend ourselves by any means necessary.  We will not fire a shot unless fired upon, but we make it very clear that the 2nd amendment will be fully exercised in our defense, and as we are obligated to do so by the Declaration of Independence and the U.S. Constitution.

3) 10′s of millions of patriots are literally willing to die to defend our nation from all enemies; foreign and domestic.  Feds and law enforcement need to choose the side of the American people and refuse to continue acting as a domestic enemy.  Officials who have sworn an oath must educate themselves, stand down and be constitutional or face another potential Bundy Ranch stand ranch standoff.

This time around we have a chance to be proactive and avoid the potential loss of life as occurred on April 12th, 2014.  We ask Feds a law enforcement to choose the side of the supreme law of the land, the American people, and future generations of Americans who will benefit from each of us doing the right thing for our country.  STAND DOWN and you will instantly become a true American hero.  Opposing us and firing upon us….would be a very very bad choice.  We proved our intent on April 12th, 2014.  We meant peace, but we were willing to die to defend our God-given rights.  Not one shot was fired, and every singlet person in the canyon benefitted that day — except for BLM Special Agent In Charge Daniel P. Love.  If Daniel P. Love is involved in any way with the taking of 3 million acres, refuse his orders and if the federal government dares an unconstitutional “next time”, let’s all arrest him on the spot for putting all of our lives in danger.

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Please feel free to review the original Bundy Ranch Standoff which took place in April 2014.

As millions of Americans are aware, Pete conducted the first major interview with Cliven Bundy on April 8, 2014 (Click here to get right to the interview)

The following day Pete was present at Bundy Ranch and recorded the BLM brutalizing peaceful protestors who set out to stop the BLM’s convoy returning from the desert as they suspected the BLM was killing cattle or destroying infrastructure in violation of the law and their own court order.  The video begins as the BLM convoy was stopped in order to demand a full investigation of the vehicles returning from the area seized by the federal government.  Millions of people around the world viewed and shared this video, and thousands of people came to Bundy Ranch on April 12th to defend the peaceful proctors demanding the cattle and land be freed.

Watch what “We The People” accomplished on April 12th 2014.  The unarmed peaceful protestors were met by the Federal Government’s guns of war, but the protestors were backed up by a credible threat of 2nd amendment patriots of the citizen’s militia.   15805c8d-546a-caac-cc5d-c1abb9261745-banner

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Cliven Bundy’s views ‘far on the fringes’ of Mormonism, says BYU prof

BundyIlloWEBBy Peggy Fletcher Stack | The Salt Lake Tribune

Mormon cattle rancher Cliven Bundy takes an idiosyncratic stance on his church’s 12th Article of Faith, which calls for “being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.”

Bundy, who owes the federal government more than $1 million in grazing fees, supports the U.S. government only when it doesn’t interfere with what he views as his rights.

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Mormonism’s 12th Article of Faith

“We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.”

“We are to be ‘subject to kings, presidents, rulers and magistrates’ as they honor the Constitution,” he told KUER “RadioWest” host Doug Fabrizio on Wednesday.

“But if they don’t honor the Constitution, we don’t have no obligation to ’em. Only as they honor the principles of protecting liberty and freedom of individual rights do we honor them and their government. It don’t say we honor them and their laws.”

Bundy’s view of government is “far on the fringes,” said Quin Monson, a political scientist at LDS Church-owned Brigham Young University. “It is not something I see or hear among people at BYU or at church. It has not made its way into mainstream Mormon websites or quasi-church material or affiliated sites.”

In a 1994 speech at America’s Freedom Festival in Provo, LDS apostle Dallin H. Oaks rebuked the notion that Mormons can break laws they think are unjust.

Oaks pointed to church policies reminding Mormons in any nation that they are “obligated by the 12th Article of Faith to obey the tax laws of that nation (see also Doctrine & Covenants 134:5) . … A member who refuses to file a tax return, to pay required income taxes, or to comply with a final judgment in a tax case is in direct conflict with the law and with the teachings of the church.”

In the speech, Oaks said “Latter-day Saints affirm that God gave the power to the people, and the people consented to a Constitution that delegated certain powers to the federal and state governments and reserved the rest to the people.”

That does not mean, Oaks said, “that each citizen is free to determine which laws he will obey or that one or more citizens are free to redefine the concept of sovereignty … [which] would result in anarchy.”

There are even rules in the Utah-based Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints for disciplining members “who don’t obey the law,” Monson said. “It depends on the severity of the situation and the person’s prominence in the church community.”

Such discipline “may not be applied consistently,” the BYU professor said, but “at least there’s a provision for it.”

A recent LDS Church statement noted that “church discipline may be required for [members] guilty of serious criminal offenses.”

Bundy has talked with his LDS bishop, he told KUER, and said he is not in any trouble.

Source: http://www.sltrib.com/sltrib/news/58268821-78/church-bundy-honor-byu.html.csp

Article of Faith 12: Obey the Government. Always?

October 17, 2008

By Brian Johnston

Article of Faith 12:

“We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.”

“Members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints believe in obeying the laws of the country in which they live. Members of the Church are counseled to be good citizens, to participate in civil government and the political process, and to render community service asconcerned citizens.” reference: Mormon.org

Obeying the law and being good citizens in the larger community is a foundational principle of our Church. In the 20th century, our consistency with this principle opened surprising doors in countries closed to other religious denominations.

The former German Democratic Republic (East Germany) allowed the LDS Church to build a temple in Freiburg in the late 1980’s. It was still a communist, cold-war, Soviet satellite nation. The peaceful and obedient example set by members of the LDS Church trapped behind the Iron Curtain after WWII gave the East German government the level of confidence they needed to accept such a religious structure in their land. The Freiburg temple was actually the FIRST temple built on German soil. The West German temple was built a couple years later.

The positive aspects of being engaged with, and supportive of governments, being obedient to the laws of the land, and honoring our communities has been a great tool to reach out with the Gospel.

I would like to pose this question: Where do we draw the line?  When do we have to say “no?”

There certainly has to be a point where we can not obey the law. Jesus answered the Pharisees and Herodians “Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s; and unto God the things that are God’s.” At some points in history though, “Caesar” crosses the line.

Is it acceptable to go to war and kill other people for our rulers? I’m not talking about defending ourselves from direct attack, but to “protect our international interests.”

Is it ok for members to actively support a government that represses basic freedoms?

Is it noble for members to actively support a government that imprisons and tortures political dissidents?

At what point do faithful LDS members have an obligation to actively oppose their rulers?

What is your personal line in the sand?  I would love to hear what you all think about this personally.

[Please note, I will actively moderate rants about specific countries or political parties that do not add to a constructive and positive discussion.  Thank you in advance for that cooperation!]

Cliven Bundy Joins the Independent American Party!

Cliven Bundy and his wife Carol changed party affiliation registering as voters with the Independent American Party last night May 23. The Independent American Party event was held to honor Bundy for his courage in standing up for State Sovereignty. There was a large and enthusiastic crowd at the Las Vegas National Golf Course who witnessed this historic event.

SEE NEWS VIDEO HERE: http://www.mynews3.com/content/video/default.aspx?videoID=5129965

IAPWhen Bundy was asked why he was switching parties he replied, “WelI, I haven’t got much good out of the Democrats and Republicans so I decided to try a new one.”

At the meeting John Wagner State Chairman invited Cliven Bundy and his wife Carol to join the Independent American Party.

Cliven Bundy responded, “I’m darn ready to do it.” He and his wife signed registration forms as the audience applauded and cheered.

Bundy was the featured speaker at the event. He shared the events from his standoff with the militarized BLM. He criticized Governor Sandoval who instructed the Department of Agriculture’s Brand Inspectors to cooperate with the BLM in confiscating Bundy’s cattle. The Governor’s intervention could have prevented the near disaster at Bunkerville. Unfortunately, the Governor represented the interests of the Federal Government BLM bureaucrats instead of protecting Bundy’s rights and the rights of all Nevadans.

Guest speakers included Independent American candidates for Governor David Lory VanDerBeek, Lt. Governor Mike Little, Congress Dist. 1 Kamau Bakari, Congress Dist 2 Janine Hansen, State Controller Tom Jones, State Senate Dist. 2 Louis Baker and State Assembly Dist. 40 John Wagner. Additional speakers included Tony Dane founder Independent Nevada and Republican Congressional Dist. 4 candidate Niger Innis.

For further Information contact Tom Jones, Clark County IAP Chairman 702-612-7316.

Link to YouTube video “An evening with Cliven Bundy” when he joined the IAP. It was an incredible event. Thanks to our candidate for Governor David Lory VanDerBeek for sharing this with us. Janine

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rswhEyXH8ow


Independent American Party of Nevada

The Independent American Party of Nevada is the third largest and fastest growing political party in the state, with over 69,000 registered voters! In 2010, four of our candidates were elected in partisan races.

We recognize that throughout human history most men have been slaves to man’s institutions of government; that through the wisdom of the Founding Fathers, in accordance with our Judeo-Christian traditions, those men threw off the shackles of tyranny. We declare: That the proper role of government as defined by The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution of the United States and the Bill of Rights is to protect the rights of Life, Liberty and Property, endowed to us by Divine Providence.

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Want to make a difference? Unhappy with what is happening to our Country?

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will be held on February 28 and March 1, 2014 at the Suncocast Hotel and Casino.

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IAP State Central Committee Meeting Resolutions 
October 19, 2013

These 3 resolutions were passed.

  • INDEPENDENT AMERICAN PARTY RESOLUTION OPPOSING OBAMACARE
  • INDEPENDENT AMERICAN PARTY RESOLUTION OPPOSING COMMON CORE IN NEVADA
  • INDEPENDENT AMERICAN PARTY RESOLUTION REAFIRING ITS AFFILIATION WITH THE NATIONAL CONSTITUTION PARTY

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  1. Do you think taxes are too high and government is too big?”
  2. Are you sick of American jobs going overseas, or out of our country?
  3. Do you oppose Obamacare and the federal takeover of healthcare?
  4. Do you believe that Americans have the right to own guns and protect themselves?
  5. Do you believe politicians and government should strictly adhere to the U.S. Constitution and our laws?
  6. Do you think it is wrong for 91% of Nevada to be controlled by the Federal Government?
  7. Do you oppose illegal immigration and support the repeal of all tax funded benefits going to illegals?
  8. Should America retain its Independence and not become subject to a Global Government?
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VIDEO: Cliven Bundy Speech Reno, NV – Cliven Bundy Tells HIs Side of the Story – Please Forward

Cliven Bundy speech in Reno, Nevada September 9,2014. Beginning of speech talking about property rights, State rights and sovereignty.

Cliven Bundy Speech Reno, NV Pt 1

Cliven Bundy in Reno Pt 2

Cliven Bundy in Reno Pt 3

Cliven Bundy Tells HIs Side of the Story – Please Forward

Published on Sep 5, 2014

http://agenda21radio.com Cliven Bundy talks with Paul Preston and company at the Liberty Tour Event at Win-River Casino, Redding, CA August 30, 2014. Bundy gets to tell his side of the story and what went on during the Bundy Ranch standoff last May, 2014.
This is the first Liberty Tour Event that will be happening throuout California. If you wish to attend one of these events, tickets are available through http://agenda21radio.com
During his talk Win-River Casino suffered a false alarm fire alert which lasted at least 20 minutes. This time has been eliminated from the youtube video.

Bundy: NV showdown with feds a spiritual battle

Rancher Cliven Bundy poses at his home in Bunkerville, Nevada

Bundy: NV showdown with feds a spiritual battle

ST. GEORGE, Utah (AP) — Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy says the April confrontation between the federal government and his family and armed militia supporters was part of an age-old spiritual battle between good and evil.

Bundy, a Mormon, told an Independent American Party gathering in St. George on Saturday that God provided him personal inspiration in the showdown over cattle in Bunkerville, Nevada, about 80 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

The Spectrum of St. George reports (http://bit.ly/1pRx8nq ) Bundy said people from across the country rallied around him in Bunkerville because they were “spiritually touched,” and they wouldn’t have prevailed had God not been on their side.

The U.S. Bureau of Land Management backed down, citing safety concerns. Bundy’s allies subsequently released the 380 cattle collected from the range during a weeklong operation.

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Information from: The Spectrum, http://www.thespectrum.com

Nevada ranchers cite Gandhi in protest ride

BundyIlloWEBUnlike the militiamen who came with weapons to support Southern Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy in his stand against federal land managers, ranchers in Northern Nevada are taking a page out of Gandhi’s book in their protest of livestock grazing reductions on U.S. lands.

Elko County Commissioner Grant Gerber is the chief organizer of a 70-mile horseback trek beginning on Memorial Day that he calls the “Grass March.”

He said the multiday ride from Elko to Battle Mountain is modeled after Gandhi’s “Salt March” from Sabarmati to Dandi, India, that protested the British colonial monopoly on salt in 1930.

Gerber said the Salt March was the opening salvo in a series of non-violent acts of civil disobedience that garnered international sympathy and ultimately helped lead to India’s independence.Mahatma-Gandhi-Quotes-Non-Violence-Day-Gandhi-Jayanti-Wallpapers

Gerber, a lawyer who has represented dozens of plaintiffs in lawsuits against the U.S. Forest Service and Bureau of Land Management over the past two decades, said federal agencies have the same stranglehold on Nevada land and grass as the British had on Indian salt supplies.

“The British government in India not only deprived the Indian people of their freedom but was ruining India economically, politically, culturally and spiritually. The same thing is happening in Nevada,” he said.

BLM officials say temporary reductions in some grazing allotments are necessary due to lingering drought.

“Much of the western United States and much of Nevada is experiencing severe to extreme drought conditions,” the agency said in a statement issued from its state headquarters in Reno. “These conditions have stressed all resources on the public lands, making grazing throughout most of Nevada unsustainable at permitted levels.”

One in a series

The Nevadans’ ride is the latest in a series of demonstrations since the federal government’s run-in with Bundy about 75 miles northeast of Las Vegas.

It comes at a time when land managers face a number of challenges acerbated by drought, ranging from wild-horse herds they say are overpopulated to the potential listing of the sage grouse as an endangered species.

Bundy and his supporters, some of them armed militia members, thwarted a BLM roundup of his cattle near Bunkerville in April.

The BLM says he owes more than $1 million in fees and penalties for trespassing without a permit over 20 years, but he refuses to acknowledge federal authority on the arid lands where he says his family has run cattle for more than a century.

Two weeks ago, dozens of people rode their ATVs and motorcycles on an off-limits trail in southern Utah’s Recapture Canyon in a protest against what they called the federal government’s overreaching control of public lands.

Gerber said he and others — he’s not sure how many — will ride 20 miles Monday from Elko to Carlin, where Carlin Mayor Cliff Eklund has planned a variety of events at the rodeo grounds in support of the ranchers.

Gerber said he plans to leave at sunrise and hopes to arrive by 1 p.m.

Then they will ride another 15 to 20 miles per day until they reach Battle Mountain. His sons and others will provide assistance at least part of the way from an old chuck wagon pulled by mules.

Along the way, they intend to gather signatures on a petition to present to Gov. Brian Sandoval urging the removal of the BLM’s Battle Mountain District Manager Doug Furtado.

Why Battle Mountain?

Gerber said Battle Mountain became the destination because it’s the county seat in Lander County, where he said some of the most dramatic livestock grazing reductions are occurring.

He said the BLM has ordered the closure of the Argenta allotment covering about 540 square miles in the county, about half of which is on federal land.

BLM spokeswoman Erica Szlosek says that’s “not accurate” and the fate of the allotment remained uncertain.

“We could issue a decision to close it — a full force and effect decision — but that has not occurred,” she told the Associated Press on Friday. “We’ve been meeting with the permittees on the Argenta allotment, but they still are talking back and forth. No final decision has been made.”

The ride

• Elko to Carlin

• Carlin Mayor Cliff Eklund has planned a variety of events at the rodeo grounds in support of the ranchers.

• Another 15 to 20 miles per day until riders reach Battle Mountain.

Source: Associated Press

Bundys assemble legal team, slam NV Gov. Sandoval takes issue with Gov. Brian Sandoval and Clark County Sheriff Douglas Gillespie for not investigating the BLM

Cliven Bundy

Cliven Bundy’s family said any action it pursues will focus on protecting individual rights and restoring constitutional principles.

LAS VEGAS (AP) — The family of a southern Nevada rancher caught up in a showdown with federal authorities over grazing on public lands says it is assembling a team of legal advisers to consider options.

A statement issued Tuesday by Cliven Bundy’s family said any action it pursues will focus on protecting individual rights and restoring constitutional principles.

It also takes issue with Gov. Brian Sandoval and Clark County Sheriff Douglas Gillespie for not investigating the U.S. Bureau of Land Management. 

Governor Brian Sandoval State of CORRUPTION

Governor Brian Sandoval State of CORRUPTION

Two weeks ago, about two dozen family members and other Bundy supporters filed reports with the sheriff’s office alleging crimes by federal agents against people protesting the roundup of cattle from public land.

“Our governor and sheriff should have been our heroes, but yet they remain corrupted,” the statement said.

The sheriff’s office said it wouldn’t comment Tuesday, and a Sandoval spokesman did not immediately respond to an email.

BLM officials have accused Cliven Bundy of failing to pay grazing fees for 20 years, racking up more than $1.1 million in fees and penalties, and failing to abide by court orders to remove his cattle from vast open range that is habitat for the endangered desert tortoise.

Bundy’s statement Tuesday came a day after the head of the BLM said his agency plans to act through the courts to hold lawbreakers accountable in the dispute.

BLM chief Neil Kornze said during a National Public Radio interview on Monday that some people broke laws before a roundup of Bundy’s cattle was suspended last month northeast of Las Vegas.

The Las Vegas Review-Journal reported that Kornze’s first public comment about Bundy came on the “Diane Rehm Show.”

Kornze said the agency is committed to working through the legal system.

Agency officials said the same thing when the roundup was called off April 12 amid threats of violence involving federal authorities and armed Bundy supporters near Interstate 15.

source: http://www.mohavedailynews.com/news/bundys-assemble-legal-team-slam-sandoval/article_546f74ce-db3d-11e3-a736-0019bb2963f4.html

Federal cattle roundup spurs Bunkerville, Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy to file criminal complaint

Bunkerville rancher Cliven Bundy is continuing his feud against the Bureau of Land Management for last month’s roundup of his cattle on public land on the Gold Butte range, saying he will file a criminal complaint Friday morning with the Metropolitan Police Department based on the federal agency’s actions.

“We believe the BLM acted illegally. We have decided to file reports at the Sheriff’s Office,” reads a news release from Bundy, 68, and his wife Carol.

The announcement, sent by email at 10:15 p.m. Thursday, asks for witnesses and supporters of his protest of the BLM’s roundup of his cattle to join him in filing the complaint at 10 a.m. Friday at Las Vegas police headquarters, 400 Martin Luther King Blvd.

“If you witnessed or were subjected to any of the following crimes, please come and file a report with us,” the news release says.

His list of allegations includes “men blocking access to public land … harassing people for taking photos” and other claims such as impersonating police officers, threatening to use stun guns and “threatening to fire upon unarmed civilians” as well as use of attack dogs and “men pointing weapons.”

“We believe that the BLM men who pointed guns at over 1,000 people on April 12th near the I-15 freeway south of Mesquite committed a criminal act and the Clark County sheriff’s office should be required to investigate,” Bundy’s statement reads.

BLM officials have been mum about the armed standoff in which militia members in support of Bundy were photographed carrying and pointing assault rifles near the state Route 170 bridge that spans the Virgin River between an Interstate 15 exit, 70 miles northeast of Las Vegas, and Riverside Road on the south side of the bridge.

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Getting the Government We Pay For

ImageGetting the Government We Pay For

From Cliven Bundy to bungled websites, we’ve created a monster by starving it

According to a proclamation from Governor Brian Sandoval’s office, May 4-10 will be Nevada State Employee Recognition Week, to praise their good work, including how they “conserve and preserve our natural and clitoral resources.”

It presumably should have been “cultural resources,” unless it was a bow to the state allowing legal prostitution. Actually, though, it says a lot about both Obamacare and Cliven Bundy—not what’s wrong with them, but what’s wrong with us.

How did you react to the obvious typographical error? You may have laughed, or thought it referred to how state employees are treated. More likely, you saw it as typical of our incompetent government—whatever level it is—to make such a silly mistake.

Government makes bigger mistakes. Set aside what the Bureau of Land Management has done right or wrong lately, not to mention Bundy’s grasp of race relations. He quit paying his grazing fees 20 years ago. Where has the BLM been? Continue reading

Historic! Feds Forced to Surrender to American Citizens in Nevada Cliven Bundy conflict

In an epic standoff that Infowars reporter David Knight described as being like “something out of a movie,” supporters of Nevada cattle rancher Cliven Bundy advanced on a position held by BLM agents despite threats that they would be shot at, eventually forcing BLM feds to release 100 cattle that had been stolen from Bundy as part of a land grab dispute that threatened to escalate into a Waco-style confrontation.

Governor Brian Sandoval did good by calling out the BLM

Brian Sandoval with his bong

Brian Sandoval with his bong

By Mark Anderson:

He did good by calling out the BLM. But the best thing was the willingness of an armed citizenry to stand up to the BLM which, apparently, is a terrorist organization. It’s why firearms can’t be relinquished, and people need to stand up against tyranny everywhere. We need to demand the politicians running the federal government be arrested. The BLM attack was not about cattle grazing. It’s about starving people to death.

I’m compelled to give Governor Sandoval accolades. He did good by calling out the feds. And it’s good that not a shot was fired and everything remained peaceful. Nothing would be more injurious to the cause of liberty than for people to engage in violence. But it’s not over until that ongoing threat called the BLM is disarmed and all of those terrorists who work for the BLM are fired and doing something different with their time.

What’s more important than electing libertarian type members of Congress is getting libertarian Governors, and then those Governors need to maintain the National Guard, not let the feds deploy the Guard overseas. And then those Governors can use the National Guard to arrest feds. At the federal level, the GOP is a horrible party and needs to be wiped out. At the state level, it’s somewhat different.

Let me say that I have some strong disagreements with Alex Jones on a plurality of issues. I don’t agree with him on everything. On immigration, Alex Jones almost turns me into a Jeb Bush fan. And it’s not just that our ability to leave the country be curtailed by closing down the borders but with what the government is doing we certainly don’t want fewer people outside of the system. That’s on top of the wickedness of scapegoating immigrants for our problems that Republicans and Democrats created by electing criminals.

Alex Jones is right on when it comes to the situation with Cliven Bundy. People need to keep in mind it’s not about grazing cattle. The people don’t benefit from the government’s extortion racket. Why should people pay the government to be killed? That’s suicidal and should prompt mandatory psych evaluations for people who support what the BLM did. This is about the right to make a living and people all over Nevada being able to feed themselves. Really. What happens when all farms and ranches are wiped out by a government that’s apparently trying to soft kill everybody?

Absent some kind of evidence, I would be reluctant to claim that Harry Reid was behind everything as some people claim. If anything, if it was staged, it looks like the Republicans staged it because now they appear to be the “saviors”.

One thing I would like to bring up with Governor Sandoval, him being a former federal judge, are the thoughts of Justice Stevens on the Second Amendment. Let me say that I’m sympathetic to the arguments for gun control because I abhor violence. If gun control worked to reduce violence that would be a very nice thing. I made a decision a long time ago to not have anything whatsoever to do with the firearm industry just based on my personal standards. If I were told that I could legally make a fortune selling firearms, I wouldn’t want to do that out of having to worry that just one firearm ended up in the wrong hands.

But here’s my problem with attempts to ban guns. Guns don’t kill people. People kill people. Too often, because the government does something it’s considered ipso facto legal. Yet if we look hard enough we can find countless examples where governments committed crimes, atrocities. A lot of human rights violations in the United States are camouflaged as benevolent actions on the part of government. As an example: compulsory vaccinations. And I’m not saying the Second Amendment is to stop vaccination programs, which I want to make clear. I’m just bringing up the extent of the crimes of the government, many of which are camouflaged as good things with propaganda. History is filled with examples of governments murdering people. Justice Stevens glosses over crimes carried out by governments.

Also the government can get a lot of things wrong, as the VA got wrong with me which is something I’ll have to share with everybody. I shared it with Sue Lowden when I was still falling apart due to having done to myself what the VA wanted to do to me. And as I regain myself, I want to make clear there’s not an ounce of hostility for anybody in particular that I have. In many ways, it’s relaxing to be able to call out the government for its crimes.

I apologize to the person who made this argument before me, but I haven’t yet seen it myself. If guns are only meant for people in the employ of the government, then why even have a Second Amendment? Does the government need to remind itself not to disarm itself? Is the government on the verge of relinquishing all of its firearms? If only the sovereign has firearms, who amongst us could violate the “right” of the sovereign to have firearms, consequently needing to remind people of this inalienable right of the sovereign?

I believe people should be able to have as much firepower as the government has, absent weapons of mass destruction which I believe should be eliminated and no man on earth should possess.

And the reason why veterans shouldn’t become depressed and kill themselves. Our purpose is to undermine the credibility and the legitimacy of the federal government. Our purpose is to expose the pack of criminals who run government. Continue reading